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Tuesday, 29 November 2016

November 2016 Pub Crawl




With the explosion of  craft-beer bars and micro-pubs in Southampton I thought it time to invite some of my old beer friends down for a good old fashioned pub crawl. The first to come was Ian Harrison. I've known Ian since meeting him at the Maidstone Beer Festival in 2005. We are both members of RateBeer, and we've been to two weddings and a funeral together, as well as numerous pub crawls, including one in Sheffield that got turned into a film (I was having a bad day so refused to get involved in the filming, and asked them not to shoot me and my wife, though we can still be seen in some scenes). 



Southampton November Crawl Part One - by car


Despite all my meticulous planning the day started badly when Ian text me to say he was arriving at Southampton Central, and I was still at home because I had thought he was arriving an hour later! I picked him up at around 11.30, but I had planned to start in Shirley where none of the pubs I'd selected would be opened until 12. Given that we would be visiting a planned 16 pubs and drinking in each, I had cut out non-essential pubs like Wetherspoons. But, in the circumstances, there was no choice. We started the day in The Bright Water Inn while waiting for Overdraft to open.


Ian and I are both beer collectors, sometimes known as tickers or scoopers. Ticking was started by Mick The Tick when he bought the first copy of The Good Beer Guide and thought it would be fun to drink every beer mentioned in the book. He wasn't alone in having this idea, but he was the first to be well known for it as he shuffled into pubs and beer festivals around the country with his trolley bag and his telescope, occasionally entertaining folks with his skiffle band. For many small breweries in the UK, tickers kept them going. Until then it was normal for brewers to focus on a small core of beers, with a few seasonals and the occasional one-off special for anniversary events like a brewery's centenary, But small breweries realised they could get more sales if they made lots of different beers, because the growing band of tickers would want to buy each new one. The relationship between these small breweries and tickers was so close they would often make special beers named after some of the tickers. Certain pubs started to focus on ticking and would stock ever greater numbers of cask beers. And some cities, such as Sheffield, became infamous for the amount of ticking pubs they had. Ticking has so expanded now that even an ordinary pub will offer a guest or three, and most towns will have a few pubs which concentrate on offering at least six constantly changing beers.


Day One, Saturday 


Pub 1: Bright Water, Shirley



Ian at Bright Water Inn with his chosen beer

So, because we are tickers, a large part of the focus of the crawl would be collecting new beers. When we get in Bright Water we study the pump clips. There are eight beers on offer, but I've had everything there, and for this first section of the crawl I'm driving, so I don't have anything, while Ian selects the one beer he's not had, and we settle down at a table to chat and catch up.

Pub 2: Overdraft, Shirley

It's now time for the Overdraft to open, so we cross over the road, and Ian studies the kegs and casks behind the bar in the shabby chic interior.



Two of the beers we order turn out to be unavailable, so we have to wait while new casks are opened. Ian is not impressed by that, and neither of us are generally impressed by the ambiance or decor - it feels a little too shabby and not quite chic enough. However, this is a popular and successful pub that has recently extended its opening hours, and does offer interesting local beers.

We share three beers from the New Forest brewery Vibrant Forest: Belgian Zuur,  Kick Start, and Kaleidoscope. I tend to find Vibrant Forest beers too hop focused for my taste (I prefer malty beers), but I did enjoy the Belgian Zuur.


Pub 3: Waterloo Arms, Shirley

We then drove round the corner to the Waterloo Arms, a pub I particularly like. There are plenty of good quality HopBack beers on offer, plus some from the Downton brewery, also in Salisbury, and the barmaid was friendly and attractive. Ian wasn't so keen because the smell from the cleaning fluids in the toilet had drifted into the pub.

Daleside Stout in the Waterloo Arms


We shared two beers - Red Ember from Hop Back, and a Stout from Daleside. Bot hdecent beers in good condition.


Pub 4: Wellington Arms, Shirley


The Wellington Arms is just round the corner from the Waterloo, and I should imagine would attract the same customers. When we popped in there was only one customer, and he was busy helping the barmaid light the fire, but there's always a warm, relaxed atmosphere in here, and we had a good crack while ordering the drinks.




There were two beers from the Brewhouse & Kitchen on offer, and even though we would be visiting them next, Ian went for their Wellie Gull as he'd already had all the other beers in the pub. I had the Andwell Gold Muddler, which Ian had sampled at GBBF in 2010. Both were drinkable if unremarkable pale beers. The Wellie Gull was quite similar to Walk The Line, and appears to have been created just for the pub, so may be a rebadge of that beer.






Shop, Casks & Corks



On our way to the Brewhouse & Kitchen we stopped off at the Casks & Corks beer shop in St James Road. This offers a decent range of local beers at decent prices, and we picked up a few bottles and cans each.


Pub 5: Brewhouse & Kitchen

Our visit to the Brewhouse wasn't that successful. It started promisingly enough with a spread of pump clips, and an offer of three thirds for £3, so we grabbed Walk The Line, On Le Tiss, and Speedwell as our samplers.



All three beers were really bad, with Speedwell Bitter being particularly awful. I was convinced the Speedwell was the result of a pull through error, and that what we were drinking was the cleaning water, and that we should ask the barman to try again, but Ian was so unimpressed by the general standard he didn't think it was worth the bother, so we moved on.


Pub 6: Tramstop Bar & Kitchen




We parked in the useful free car park just off Westridge Road behind Sprinkles, and walked the short distance to Tramstop Bar & Kitchen, which is named after the tram terminal which was on St Denys Rd just outside. There is an attractive range of local beers available here, and Ian had Crackle Rock's Crackerjack and Firecracker, both of which which I'd already had.

Some of the local beers available at Tramstop

It's a pleasant place, but we both felt that while promising, it doesn't seem to have quite settled on an identity or target audience. I've been at least a couple of times now, and haven't yet written up a review....


Pub 7: Butcher's Hook






One of our favourite stops of the day. I like the Butchers Hook - I like the chap who runs it. Always friendly and ready for a chat. And knowledgable about beers and brewing. We got into an interesting conversation with a drunk Scot who was urging us to try a pub in town which serves Doom Bar.


Pub 8: Olaf's Tun





At last I was able to leave the car near home, and we visited Olaf's Tun where we had a couple of decent beers before jumping into an Uber Taxi and making our way to the new BrewDog bar in the student-tastic Bedford Square area of Southampton.


Pub 9: BrewDog

I'm not really a fan of BrewDog or their bars, but this one sort of works for me. We had Flying Dog Berliner Weisse  and Beavertown Tropigamma, both drinkable but nondescript beers, and neither from local breweries.




Now we were in town, and I had left the car in Woolston, we could do a proper old fashioned pub crawl, and I wouldn't be limited on the drinking. So we walked round the corner to the Cricketers.

Pub 10: The Cricketers Arms

The Cricketers beer choice

The Cricketers Arms (or The Famous Cricketers Arms, as its seems to be called now) is a traditional pub in the centre of the trendy student night area of Bedford Square. The two rooms have been knocked through, so you enter into the lounge area, then go through into the old public bar to be served. The rugby was on the TV, and some lads were playing darts, so it had a sports bar feel, but there was an attractive selection of beers. I kind of like the Cricketers as part of a crawl. We had

Ian demonstrates how the English will
crush the balls of the Welsh in the rugby

Marston’s 61 Deep and Jennings Pigs Might Fly, another Marston's beer. Neither were very exciting. Next pub is also just a short walk - the modern Sadler's, just round the corner.


Pub 11, Sadler's 

Regular display of beers

Even though Sadler's has a something like ten different casks on offer, Ian and I have had nearly all of them, so there isn't much of interest for us here on this visit. We had the Kingasaurus

Pub 12, Chalk Valley

This was my first visit to Chalk Valley. We were walking past, and I said that the local CAMRA branch had mentioned it had draught beers on offer, so we tried it out, and both liked it.



Pub 13, Wetherspoons - The Giddy Bridge



Pub 14, Belgium and Blues



Pub 15,  The Red Lion



Pub 16, The Duke of Wellington



Pub 17, Dancing Man



Pub 18, Platform Tavern



Pub 19, Caskaway



Pub 20,  The Frog & Frigate



Day Two, Sunday 




Pub 1, Junction Inn



Pub 2, South Western Arms



Pub 3, The Dolphin



Pub 4, The Bookshop Alehouse



Shop,



Pub 5, The Guide Dog




Pub 6,  The Rockstone





Thursday, 24 November 2016

Wellington Arms, Shirley




Traditional Victorian corner local in a backstreet part residential part industrial area of Freemantle in Shirley. Looks run down and unwelcoming from the outside. One door is locked, and the other door is shut. Dead plants hang from the flower baskets. It hasn't been cleaned for a while. The impression is either that this is a closed down pub, or it is frequented by gypsies and bikers who feel uncomfortable in clean surroundings. But on entering the mood changes as it is clearly a beer focused pub with 11 different cask beers split between the front and rear bars.


Seven cask beers in the front bar

And another four in the back bar

The pub was in existence as the Swan Inn during the early 1860s when a Miss Belford was the landlady. It changed its name to Wellington Arms in 1975.  As an attempt to get around the smoking ban the pub became a consulate to the Caribbean island of Redonda in 2007 and attempted unsuccessfully to become an embassy as well.

During my visit on a Saturday afternoon after I'd taken part in the New Forest 10K there was one other customer, and the barmaid was out the back. There was a relaxed and friendly atmosphere, and both the fellow customer and the barmaid, who was summoned by a bell, were chatty enough.

Date: Sept 2015     Score:  7 


  




I've been back here many times since my first visit in 2015. I'd like this pub to be in Woolston. Always friendly. Always easy to chat to the people. There's been some changes over the years. New owner. Fresh lick of paint. And they do food these days. But, sadly, they've had to cut back, and now only do food Friday to Sunday. Also, there are fewer beers, and mostly well known brands. 


Five casks available in Nov 2021


I came here as I was looking for a pub which did food and cask beer for lunch near Shirley precinct. But as I came on a Wednesday, they weren't doing food.  There were several suggestions as to where to try for food - Wetherspoons, of course, was offered, and then the Pig and Whistle, but that opens at 4.00; so it was suggested I try the Mayflower Village next to the Mayflower theatre - but that's well out of Shirley. Beer selection has been reduced, with pumps on the back bar repeating the beers on the front bar. There were seven pumps in the front bar, but only five had beers. I had a rather good Dark Star Hophead, then made my way back to my car.  

Date: Nov 2021    Score: 7 

Independent 
56 Park Road 
SO15 3DE

Monday, 7 November 2016

The Peartree, Woolston





Locals pub built in the 1950s on the site of an older pub destroyed during the war - the older pub was in existence since at least 1907. The place is OK, but doesn't do food or cask beer. Beers are keg - Websters Bitter, John Smiths, Fosters, Carlsberg, and Guinness.



Two distinct rooms. The Games Bar has a pool table and is more down to earth. The other room is the lounge with attractive views on Peartree Green, a pleasant fireplace, and clean carpet and tables.

The smart and somewhat retro looking lounge bar

I've popped in twice. First time everyone was in the lounge, the second time everyone was in the public/games bar. Laid back atmosphere, and people are chatty enough. If they served beer I liked I think I would pop in more often.


I did a review for Google last year:

1930s style roadside pub in a quiet, almost rural area just north of Woolston. No cask ales and no food. Traditional two room layout. Feels like a proper pub with local interest pictures on the walls. Nice view out the window at the green and the church. It's fine as a local boozer for a chat with the lads, but without decent beer and food, and little else to pull the interest, it's not a pub that's likely to get me going there often, and there's little to recommend, unless you happen to live locally, and like keg beers. Then it's fine.


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Saturday, 5 November 2016

Spike Islander, Sholing




Large two room community pub with large beer garden with playground. Family friendly place. We popped in during a January weekend on a family pub crawl. I don't recall the beers. I suspect they had no cask, so I had a Guinness. I remember the place being laid back, casual and friendly. with a mixed group of customers of all ages. It's good for locals, it's a useful stop on a pub crawl, but it's not a place to come out of your way for.

Spike Island is the local name for Sholing

Date: Jan 2015    Score: 4


Spike Islander in the spring

Driving past on a sunny Sunday afternoon in May and I popped in to confirm they have no cask. Yes, Guinness is the best on offer.

There are two bars. The public bar is the main room, accessed via an entrance corridor which leads to the lounge and the toilets. There's a pool table, darts board, and a TV showing sport. The bar has around seven males of varying ages, sitting mostly in silence. I went into the garden, accessed via the lounge bar, which contained several more males - one sitting alone reading a paper, and a party of four quietly chatting over bottles of Newcastle Brown. The back garden is mostly lawn, with two pieces of children's play equipment, several wood pub tables, and a covered smoking area by the back door.

The pub in general is laid back and casual, and provides a valuable service to the local community, though would have little to offer outsiders, other than a stop on a pub crawl.


The back beer garden

Date:  May 2017   Score: 4


115 South East Road,  SO19 8JR


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The Avenue, Southampton (Closed)




Review April 2015


Slightly rough and ready backstreet boozer. What would have been originally a small one or two room pub has been extended through to the back in a series of quirky rooms which offer interesting nooks and crannies. There is the option of sitting out the back or the front - neither are very attractive or pleasant options, but at least you can sit in the fresh air.

The rooms are fairly basic and it has the feel of a student pub with modest decor and furniture. The room right at the back, past the toilets, is the billiard table room. Three cask ales on offer. Doom Bar is the regular, with two or three guests from such as Sharps, Black Sheep, St. Austell and Purity. Prices are good - on my visit it was £3 a pint.

Food not offered - just as well, it's not a clean looking place. Good for crisps and a pint of beer, but little more than that. Barman very friendly and pleasant. Loud punk music played in the main bar on our visit. We sat out in the rear beer garden which does catch the sun.




Review Oct 2016

Drove past and noticed that the pub is now closed, and converted to two houses. Seems it had closed in 2013, then opened up again, and closed in Nov 2014, and opened up again, before finally closing late in 2015.

Appears to have been an Aldridges Bedford Brewery pub built around 1869 as The Avenue Hotel. The brewery was bought by Brickwoods, who were later acquired by Whitbread, whose pub estate was later bought by Enterprise Inns in 2003. It was Enterprise who closed it down and sold it off for housing.


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Hare & Hounds, Bitterne (Closed)




Modern estate pub owned by Punch Taverns. It was built in 1963 at the same time as the Harefield council estate. Children accepted, but no meals and no cask beers offered. I've been in once and had a cheap keg lager. There wasn't much in the way of comfort, atmosphere or conversation, but it was OK. However, due to location, and what the pub offers, I see no reason to go back. This is just a local's place.


Date: Early 2016   Score: 3


Drove past today and it's gone. There's a fence around the site, so they'll be building something there soon.  Checked, and it was demolished in November 2017 because vandals were getting into the empty building, and so it was thought to be unsafe. The council hopes to include a community cafe or micro pub in any future building plans.  Apparently it closed  late September 2916. So it was already closed when I first published my review. Looking at my photo, it appears I visited in the early part of the year, before the leaves had grown on the trees.

Date: June 2019   Score: NA


Cheriton Avenue
SO18 5JE

Open from 12 to 11 Mon-Sun Closed permanently


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Na's Bar & Galley (previously Bar Marina), Bitterne or St Denys



Pleasant single room bar serving local beers from gravity cask, mostly for the local boating community and nearby residents. It's right in the marina, so quite hard to find - essentially, you need to know its here. There's seating outside. It's all quite bright and breezy, with interesting quirky touches. Though a new conversion the bar has no inside facilities for disabled due to the door ledge being too high. There's space outside for a wheelchair, and a disabled toilet in the marina itself.

Two cask beers available on my visit, Crackerjack from the Cracklerock brewery in Botley - my first beer from that brewery, and Punter from the Upham brewery in Bishop Waltham.

Gravity casks behind the bar
I like this place, but they don't do food, and it's a little out of the way for me, so I wonder how often I would visit. Parking in the marina is officially restricted to boat owners, so that also makes visiting a little awkward. However, if you're using the marina, or you're as local, this is going to be an essential bar, and I can see it becoming a firm favourite with those who live in or use the area.


An airy and pleasant ambience

Date: Dec  2016  Score: 7 




I was in the area so dropped in, and glad I did. I do like this place. It has a bright airy feel. Very relaxed and friendly. Two beers on, and I went for Bowman's Lapwing as I'd not had it before, and got chatting to a small group of drinkers from Shirley who had come over to check the place out. They told me about a new craft beer place in Shirley that I need to check out. Southampton is so blessed with pubs!

Date: March 2018   Score: 8 

 


Update. Bar Marina closed in March 2019. It reopened July 2019 as Paddle &Peel, which appears to be run by the people who had the pizza van It's A Pizza Thing, which used to be outside the South Western Arms

Date: July 2019  Score: NA

 


 The place is now a Thai restaurant and bar. Not sure if they allow drinking without food - they do seem to focus on the food on the website. 

Not yet revisited. 

Date: March 2023    Score: N/A 


Unit 7A Kemps Quay
Quayside Road
SO18 1AD


Opening hours are vague. They seem to announce it on their Facebook page

Friday, 4 November 2016

Mbunto Cocktail Bar Bistro (formerly Bitterne Park), Bitterne




The old Bitterne Park (Hotel) reopened in 2021 as a Cocktail Bar / Bistro with food, under the name Mbunto (styled mbunto) which the owners said was the name of an  African businessman they admired, though the website says its an African word about togetherness - the literal translation being "I am who I am because of who we are".  

Myles and I visited in September 2021 as part of our Lads Who Lunch. I was impressed by the way the place had been, at last, uplifted, and some of its potential was being realised. 






The draught beers are all keg. I noted two I hadn't had before: Portland, a harmless attempt at a "craft beer" by Adnams, and the house beer - mbuntu Pilsner Lager, which I was told was a rebadge of another beer, but I can't remember which beer it was (Carlsberg, or something like that). 





The menu is interesting with an African edge. There are veggie options. I had a Plantain Katsu Curry with rice and curry sauce. 






The place was empty on our lunchtime visit, but looks promising. They are perhaps aiming more for an evening crowd.  All in all we quite liked it. 

Date: September 2021    Score: 6 


2 Cobden Avenue 
SO18 1FX 


Open: Tue - Sun: 12:00 pm - 11:00 pm (12.30am weekends)

Lunch : Tue - Sun: 12:00 pm - 3:00 pm
Dinner : Tue - Sun: 5:00 pm - 9:00 pm (12.00 weekends)







Large Enterprise Inns pub just off Bitterne Triangle. Was called Bitterne Park Hotel on my first visit a year or two ago. Now just called Bitterne Park. Large place with lots of potential as a family pub serving food, but on both my visits there was an echoing lack of atmosphere, and no food available. Two casks.


Two casks on offer

Interior space with potential for live acts

There's been an Investment Opportunity sign outside for a while. Driving past this July 2017 there are workers removing fixtures. Not sure if the place is being done up or closed down.


Bitterne Park Hotel
2 Cobden Avenue 
SO18 1FX  

Enterprise Inns  - Child accepted  - No meals
 11-11 Mon-Fri; 12-11 Sat-Sun

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